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Published in Savings on 6 October 2008

Donna Werbner takes a look at savings account which have 100% Government safety guarantees and discovers which are the most competitive.

Out of anyone in Europe, they’re supposed to be the most cool-headed and logical. So when the Germans start panicking about the safety of their savings, you can bet a few million Euros that everyone else is, too.

At the time of going to press, there was – as yet – no clarity on whether or not the German Government plans to offer a blanket guarantee on all accounts held by depositors. But there does appear to be some backtracking going on.

It is now being suggested that the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, was merely making a ‘political’ commitment that German savers would not lose out if a German bank were to go bust.

In other words, it’s an ‘implied’ guarantee – similar to the one our Chancellor, Alistair Darling, made when he said he would do “whatever it takes to maintain financial stability and protect depositors." (my bold.)

So what does this all mean? And how does it affect the safety of your savings?

How safe are your savings?

At the moment, the British Government has stopped short of guaranteeing all deposits will be safe if a bank goes bust.

From Tuesday, the amount guaranteed by the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) rises to £50,000. This, the Government claims, will protect 98% of savers.

If you have more than £50,000, you can simply spread your money around between different banks and still stay safe.

Sounds simple? There are two potential pitfalls to bear in mind:

  • You are only protected if you spread your money between banks with different banking licences. And this is complicated to work out. For example, Halifax and Bank of Scotland are covered under one licence, because they are both part of HBOS. But Abbey and Alliance & Leicester have separate licence, even though they are both part of Santander. Read Which Banks Are Connected? for more information about this.
  • If a bank does go bust, it may take months before you get your money back under the FSCS scheme.

No wonder that savers looking for an easy life are pouring their money into banks which do have 100% guarantees backed by Governments. These are:

100% British

Both Northern Rock and National Savings & Investments (NS&I) offer you a 100% guarantee that your savings will be safe, even if you save more than £50,000.

Unfortunately, Northern Rock has pulled its instant access savings account following a huge increase in demand over the past week. It still offers a decent fixed rate Cash ISA at 6%, but most of its products are pretty uncompetitive – indeed, they are deliberately so.

NS&I, on the other hand, offers extremely competitive savings certificates linked to the Retail Prices Index, which is currently 5.2%. The certificates are guaranteed to beat this index, a measure of inflation, by at least 0.85% a year, giving an overall return of RPI plus 1% AER if you hold the certificate for its full term.

And best of all, the return is tax-free. To get an equivalent return elsewhere, higher-rate taxpayers would have to find an account paying a whopping 10.33%, while lower-rate taxpayers would have to find an account paying 7.75%.

Of course, inflation may fall soon, bringing the RPI and the rate down. But at the moment, it is by far the best return you can get on a 100% safe account.

However, you do need to be prepared to lock your money away for at least a year to earn any interest at all. And the maximum you can invest in each certificate (there are two – a five-year certificate and a three-year certificate) is £15,000.

100% Irish

Irish banks, such as Bank of Ireland and the Anglo-Irish Bank, have a 100% guarantee from the Irish Government. This includes savings accounts with the Post Office, as it is funded by the Anglo-Irish Bank.

If you’re looking for a 100% safe instant access savings account, the best one around is the Anglo Irish Easy Access Deposit Issue 2 account. It currently pays 6.4% AER, which is only 0.2% below the overall instant access best buy account, the Alliance & Leicester eSaver Issue 2, which pays 6.6%. (The A and L account includes a bonus and a withdrawal penalty so it's not a perfect account by and means.)

But there is a big down-side of the Anglo Irish account, for me: you cannot operate it online – all transactions must take place via the telephone or by post. On the positive side, however, Anglo Irish will transfer funds into your current account via CHAPs (same day) transfer at no extra charge.

100% Danish

The Danish Government this morning (Monday) offered a 100% guarantee on all savers’ deposits. However, this is not much use for savers in the UK, as no Danish banks operate here.*

What next?

If Germany does decide to guarantee 100% of savings to shore up confidence in German banks, then it is highly likely that Britain will follow suit.

What do Fools think? Would this be a good idea? Are you worried about your savings? What do you think the future holds? Let us know, using the comment boxes below…

*This article has been corrected - there was a Danish-English misunderstanding, it seems!

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Oxfordian 06 Oct 2008, 2:23pm

Britannia International have a 100% guarantee on the interest and capital in their (offshore) accounts but it's provided by Britannia Building Society in the UK, so not sure how valuable that guarantee is..

PhilHornby 06 Oct 2008, 2:57pm

I am surprised that few commentators are mentioning those unfashionable institutions the building societies which, while not 100% 'safe' in the way that Northern Rock and B&B are , do , nonetheless, have the distinct advantage that they are safer by far than most banks, due to their mutual status and the fact that they have not dabbled in the sub-prime envoironment to the degree seen elsewhere. Why are they so rarely a topic of conversation in these troubled times? Am I missing something?

40ishfool 06 Oct 2008, 3:07pm

What I think needs to be more widely publicised (or changed!) is the status of savings accounts held in the same institution as the customer's mortgage. From MF articles, I understand that in the event of the banks' collapse, these savings are not safe at all as they can be used to reduce the mortgage debt (without the customer's approval.

This is my biggest concern at present as I have an offset mortgage (which I'm perfectly happy with generally) with separate mortgage, savings and bank account 'pots'. Now it seems that my savings and bank accounts could be wiped out....which would leave me unable to meet the commitments for which these funds were earmarked.

Bighutchy 06 Oct 2008, 4:54pm

Just spoke to the Northern Bank in Belfast, they state that at present they have a £35000 guarantee rising to £50000 tomorrow. The individual I spoke to quoted an email sent to them this morning and although he understood the Danish governments 100% guarantee he would not be drawn on the matter and stuck clearly to his email!

Shuggster 06 Oct 2008, 7:49pm

Hello Donna,

Thank you for the article. I was wondering about Irish and Danish banks in the UK. Greece has a 100% garantee on deposits too. Is there any Greek banks in the UK maybe under an EEA registration instead of a UK one?

Thanks

investorrrrrrrr 06 Oct 2008, 11:10pm

Is it too far-fetched, or is anyone else considering that perhaps governments DON'T have enough to cover the promises they are making on investors' deposits?
What exactly will our government compensate us with in case of loss; i.e. what is a pound if the financial system collapses? Just thinking the unthinkable.....

ArtemisFowl 07 Oct 2008, 8:43am

Re comment by 40ish fool
I too have an offset mortgage (with IF). I called the FSCS about how this would work if HBOS go down. They said that usual insolvency law is that a customer's credits and debits to the insolvent firm will usually be offset so that you'd end up with a smaller mortgage and no savings. This they said depends though on the contract.

So it could be that you end with a full mortgage and just £50k (Govt guarantee) of your savings. If however you have more savings than the mortgage, if the savings/mortgage are offset, you'd loose the extra savings (assuming your mortgage is over 50k). Ideally I guess the best thing would be to withdraw the savings and put it elsewhere but those offset mortgage rates aren't pleasant. As ever it depends on your risk assessment.

colin106 07 Oct 2008, 9:42am

Donna - re NS&I - it would have been more helpful if you had given the rates and terms for the one year, three year and five year accounts. For instance, what is the rate and terms for the one year account? Isn't poart of the point of an article like this to give we Fools all the info possible?

TMFDonna 07 Oct 2008, 10:06am

Hi Colin106,
I did give all the relevant information but perhaps it wasn't clear - and it is quite complicated.
There is a five-year and a three-year certificate. Each pays RPI plus 1% AER if you hold the certificate for the full term.
You can take the money out at any time. But if you hold either certificate for less than a year, you will receive nothing.
If you hold the certificate for just a year, instead of receiving RPI plus 1% AER, you will only receive RPI plus 0.85%. This is because the rate is tiered - i.e. it goes up each year you hold the certificate. So in the final year, you will receive RPI plus more than 1%. This works out to be RPI plus 1% AER overall.
Hope that makes more sense. If you need any more help, I suggest you visit the NS&I website or speak to their customer service.
Foolish regards
Donna (the author)

TMFDonna 07 Oct 2008, 10:06am

When I said "receive nothing" I meant, of course, receive no interest! :)

martinwade 07 Oct 2008, 10:10am

Can the FSCS deliver in bank industry meltdown? I think it is an unfunded guarantee which would be financed by the solvent banks in the event of a bank going down. There may be some short term government help to meet calls on the guarantee but I think that this has to be repaid. May work if just one bank fails but in the event of a "dominoe" banking collapse I'm not sure the guarantee could actually deliver.
Forget FSCS & seek shelter provided in "100% British". Capital protection should take priority over interest return & I would add Premium Bonds to Donna's list.

5753225 07 Oct 2008, 10:15am

Donna got a fact wrong. The Post Office accounts are backed by the Bank of Ireland, not the Anglo Irish Bank.

afisk 07 Oct 2008, 10:17am

Icesave has just frozen (pardon the unfunny pun) its accounts and you can't make deposits or withdrawals:

http://www.icesave.co.uk/

mark3530 07 Oct 2008, 10:34am

Does anyone know if the £50k savings guarantee for UK bank deposits includes savings from small businesses and limited companies?

SaidRich 07 Oct 2008, 10:44am

Unfortunately and ironically- I lent a great deal of money to one of my son's and have not been repaid, his business went bust. I stand no chance of ever getting any back, so to my mind lending money to a bank which goes bust falls into the same state of affairs. therefore if the government are prepared to use our money to gaurantee our money in banks this is not such a bad state. Of course in the end We pay for our bankers mistakes- my view is that the government should now also be taking steps to recover whatever and anything it can from the boards and chairpersons of those institutions who have meanwhile been stocking their coffers with our money. The recent money grabbing trends in the US and Uk etc., are nothing short of brigandry,robbery or whatever else one likes to call it, Crime deserves to be PUNISHED.

rollseyesnsighs 07 Oct 2008, 11:02am

I totally agree with SaidRich the boards and chairpersons have been committing criminal dealings and should be pursued for recovery of looted monies as are drug dealers and money launders.

gartons 07 Oct 2008, 11:19am

2 excellent comments here in my opinion:

1. Phil Hornby is not missing the point about building societies, there are still some top class savings rates to be had if you take time to shop around and not just accept the accounts highlighted in the best buy columns in the press and on comparison websites.
Presumably TMF does not recommend many of these accounts as they (TMF) do not get a big enough payback.

2. "SaidRich" is spot on when he says crime deserves to be punished. The people responsible for this crisis are no more than charlatans (this expression was used by a Fool writer recently) and parasites (my expression).

At the end of the day, we have a subprime financial system, not a subprime mortgage market.

JaneG1969 07 Oct 2008, 11:27am

Can you please tell me; the interest rates that banks are paying on their savings accounts (and current accounts) - are these for the term of the savings or just the first year?

MikeGG1 07 Oct 2008, 12:43pm

The usual situation on bank mergers is for them to operate under their original licenses for a period and then give 30 days notice that the licenses will be merged.

What is the situation when you have the maximum in each from before the merger and your savings are locked in for a 1 or 2 year term? Would you lose out through no fault of your own?

wylecop 07 Oct 2008, 1:25pm

I agree with Phil re. the lack of comment on Bldg. Soc. A/cs. Is that perhaps a form of snobbery, like not shopping @ Aldi or Lidl??

I use several Bldg. Socs. & switch to get the best deals, sometimes remaining with the same one but changing to a better option.

What worries me about the Govt. guaranteeing all deals, is that the Banks top decision makers, you know ,the clever ones who created the current scene with their ill cconsidered lending policies, could continue in a similar fashion!!??

I wonder if any of them have been sacked, or made redundant like their employees??

feluna 07 Oct 2008, 3:02pm

Hi afisk,
I have accounts with Icesave and was shocked to hear they are now frozen. Understand though that the Iceland governement guarantees savings up to 16k.
So how do we UK account holders get our money out?

matthewwarby 07 Oct 2008, 4:49pm

I took the foolish (recomended) view to place savings in Icesave to now find out that the first E20,000 is covered by the Icelandic government then any amount over is covered by the FSCS. My savings just fall short of the FSCS which leaves me wholly in the hads of the Iceladnic government. I attempted to remove money yesterday but will be bounced back into my account, unable to access it.
This money was to pay bills and the rest to cover my emergency fund.

Disappointed with foolish recommendations.

keengreen60 07 Oct 2008, 8:33pm

I too, would also like info about the good old building societies and also about the Cooperative Bank/Smile accounts.

UpHillAllTheWay 07 Oct 2008, 9:20pm

I just looked into the NS&I savings (and waited 45 minutes on the phone to be answered), and it turns out that to get the amount stated (0,85% above the RPI), you have to take out either a 2-year bond or a 5-year bond. Each of these will accept a maximum of £15,000, although you can take out one of each. They guarantee 2.95% tax free, which looks like 4.92% to a higher rate taxpayer, or 3.69% if you're on the basic rate. Their calculator shows that £15,000 will grow to £15,898 in 2 years or £17,346 after 5 years. It doesn't strike me as anything to set the world on fire, and there are get-out penalties if you want 'out' before the term.

Of course, the percentage that they pay is over the /government's/ RPI figures, and governments will always talk these down. Stating that your term in office ushered in a high RPI isn't good for getting re-elected.

pricepaid 08 Oct 2008, 12:11am

I agree with Saidrich & Gartons comments;regarding the criminality of those institutions who have funded their profits & bonuses,with our hard-earned cash.
How can these same banks & institutions declare £1Billion plus profits,yet go cap in hand to Governments for £50Billion re-capitalisation?
Seems that Joe Public pays the price whatever the product offered.
What part did our own FSA play in allowing these practices to proliferate beyond any control?

FinnMaCool92 08 Oct 2008, 12:13am

Just a comment Danish Banks do operate in the UK the Danske Bank owns the Northern Bank in Northern Ireland

Energysaving 08 Oct 2008, 9:18am

Why are TMF STILL "recommending" Kaupthing Edge? It is the first "instant access" account on the list. Now I admit that the majority of us "fools" would take that with a sizable pinch of salt, but taken at face value it's worrying.

smooge 08 Oct 2008, 1:51pm

UpHillAllTheWay - you talk about Bonds; the 3 & 5 year RP1+ fixed rates are on Tax Free Savings Certificates, not Income Bonds (whether Pensioners', Income or Child versions).
The Certificates pay out on maturity and, from experience, you get a nice surprise when you see the size of the compound interest that has accumulated.
The Bonds give you the option of receiving the interest monthly but are not tax free. They do, however, pay the interest free-of-tax at the point of receipt, whatever your income, without filling in that (can't remember the number - R85?) HMRC form. With these, shortly after the end of the tax year, you receive a statement of your interest which you should declare to the Revenue on your self-assessment form. Hope this clarifies things.
Regards, Smooge

ohioexpat 09 Oct 2008, 6:01pm

When I called Anglo Irish bank iom they told me that savings were secure because they were 100% backed by the parent bank that is now government guaranteed.

Kitxp123 09 Oct 2008, 6:09pm

A 100% guarentee (or a guarentee of any sort) by a foreign government or institution means nothing.
The only guarentee we can trust is our own government's.
The Icelandic goverment always insisted that they would protect all(Domestic and International) customers of their top 4 banks.
They have now 'bailed out' of their promise.
Luckily we have a strongly led government that has stepped in and saved many of us from financial ruin.
At last Gordon Brown has a chance to prove to us he is the best choice. He is in his element with the financial crisis. His decisive action has reminded us why he was the best Chancellor we ever had and once the dust has settled (in a couple of years) he'll surely be considered one of the greatest leaders of our time.

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