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Published in Shopping on 13 October 2008

Tied into a contract and want to save money? Here are two quick tips to cut your mobile costs.

When it comes to saving money on your mobile phone bill, there's loads of tips on how to shop around both online and on the high street, and experts will always remind you to drive a hard bargain to get a new deal at the end of your contract.

But what if you’re tied into a contract with months left before you can switch?

According to a survey by mobile phone comparison site Omio.com, 47% of those surveyed were using less than half of their contracted minutes, with a shocking 82% not even coming close to their monthly allowances.

So, if you’re in this situation, what can you do to ensure you’re getting a fair deal?

Following the paper trail

You may think that just because you signed a contract, you are tied into that price plan for the duration of the term. This is not necessarily true.

To find out if your contract provides good value for you, take a quick look at your phone bills over the past few months which will show the pattern of your calls and texts.

If you find that you use much less than you’re forking out for each month, you could always switch to a cheaper plan. For example, if you make most of your calls in the evening and during the weekend, why not opt for an off-peak plan instead? This way, you will undoubtedly get more minutes for the same price or less.

Unfortunately, as the mobile phone market becomes more competitive, companies are finding ever more cunning ways to squeeze extra cash out of their customers. Increasing the amount of time customers have to wait before being able to switch to a cheaper price plan is one of them, and I have a feeling this will only increase as time goes on.

If you took out a contract today, this is the minimum amount of time you’d have to wait before you could change you price plan to a cheaper one:

Provider

Minimum Term Before You Can Downgrade

Orange

At least half of the contract (e.g., 6 months for a 12 month contract)

O2

Nine months

Vodafone

Nine months

T-Mobile

One month before the end of contract

3

End of contract

As you can see from the table, the length of time you have to wait before downgrading to a cheaper price plan varies considerably between providers.

Orange comes out the best for flexibility, and allows you to choose a cheaper price plan providing you have served at least half your contract.

Vodafone and O2 have a similar policy, although you will have to see at least nine months of your contract through before you can switch to a cheaper price plan.

Surprisingly perhaps, 3, which generally offers superb value, does not allow you to downgrade your price plan until your contract term has ended

It’s important to be aware of these minimum limits, as they can end up causing you a big headache if you later decide want to switch plans.

Think twice before taking out a higher price plan just to get a free phone only to then be stuck with a price plan you hardly use.

High mobile rollers

But what if you regularly exceed your limit?

Well. Surprise surprise if you wish to change to a more expensive price plan, all the providers will allow you to do so without hassle at any point during your contract.

If you're looking to trade up your tariff, do your own research and don’t just go for the first recommendation you receive. Whether you talk or text more, there's likely to be a better plan for which will be cheaper than paying the standard call rates.

If you regularly exceed your calls or texts, and are a T-Mobile user, one good plan I’d recommend is Flext, which, instead of a set number of minutes and texts gives you an allowance, rather like pay as you go credit, which you can use for any mixture of minutes and texts as you like.

For example, £30 a month gets you £140 worth of credit, which translates to 700 minutes, 1,400 texts, or any mixture of the two.

3’s Mix and Match Plans work using a similar principle, and provide a good alternative for 3 customers looking for a better deal. In addition, if you regularly use your phone abroad, take a look at some of these options on calling while overseas.

The perks of the plan

One other thing is to ensure you take advantage of any perks your provider may offer.

For example, if you’re on an Orange contract lasting 18 months or more, you qualify for ‘Magic Numbers’, where you can talk for up to three hours a day to a nominated Orange mobile for free!

This is a handy perk if there’s one special person you speak to regularly, allowing you to pay less on a monthly basis.

Whether you’re nearing the end of your mobile contract or not, one thing is for sure. Contract lengths are getting longer, and I won’t be surprised if 12 month terms are phased out, with 18 month contracts becoming the norm.

One other option is to go for a SIM only contract, which only requires a 30 day commitment, after which point you are free to change your price plan, or cancel it altogether.

If you don’t mind trying yourself into a deal, Omio, which conducted the survey has a handy tool on its website, enabling you to check the cheapest deals on the market according to how you use your phone.

Once you get to the end of your contract, you could ask your current provider to match any deals that you can find. If they won't, then get your Porting Authorisation Code (PAC), which will ensure you can port your mobile phone number to your new provider.

After all, if you old provider doesn't give you what you want, then at least you’ll know that someone else will. Either way, it’s a win-win situation.

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afisk 13 Oct 2008, 9:15am

I've said it here before, and I'll keep on saying it: you don't need a mobile phone. My bills are zero. It's the perfect money-saving tip.

jeffrubinstein 13 Oct 2008, 9:34am

Hello Folks,

I'm with afisk. No phone = No bills. It also means no annoying rings at inconvenient times. Don't get me wrong, though. In the right hands, a mobile phone is a life-saver. I've been out with a relative (surgeon) and had the post midnight call come through, "Mr So&so's patient is hemorrhaging and we can't find him. Would you mind coming in to the hospital to fix the patient up please?"

But I'm not a doctor.

bobfruit 13 Oct 2008, 8:36pm

I like my mobile, although I appreciate it's a luxury item. That said, my monthly bill is £17 and I consider that fair for the use I get from it. I don't understand how people can happily pay £40+ a month, but then it's horses for courses.

afisk and jeffrubinstein - cars are another convenience luxury item: do you manage without those too?

LastChip 13 Oct 2008, 9:57pm

They're a curse. I consider them a replacement for a child's dummy. Take one away and watch the owner scream!

Do I own one? Yes, but it stays turned off all the time, unless I want to use it to call out.

It's pay as you go and I doubt it costs me £25 a year.

jenniewb 13 Oct 2008, 11:39pm

LOL! At the end of my contract, its very much byebye mobil phone for me too! not only have I had stolen 3 very delux mobile phones in as many years, I have also not really got the mney to oay for it either- I wanted an a ohone to replace my mp3, radio, diary planner, -oh and to contact people on, then I had to replace each one every time the phone got stolen!

I am still living off value food and walking everywhere to continue to pay 3 mobile for the rest of the contract for a phone now no longer have!

I live to see the day in 10 months time I have NO MOBILE PHONE!

afisk 16 Oct 2008, 8:32am

"afisk and jeffrubinstein - cars are another convenience luxury item: do you manage without those too?"

Yes, I do. I've never owned a car in my life, and the last time I actually drove a car was on 31st. January 1973.

Scotmac100 16 Oct 2008, 1:27pm

Coming to the only get-out point on 18 month contract ie the last 6 weeks. Penalties for ending sooner were a lotofpennies. Even now, if I misjudge the week to send my request for disconnection in writing, I'm told I will be charged £50.

Changing to Pay as You Go.

I prefer to be in control.

jonnie2thumbs 17 Oct 2008, 7:17am

tip #1 - ten year old kids do NOT need to spend £20 a month on calls and txts....

muzza668 17 Oct 2008, 7:56am

There seems to be a lot of smugness on this page and very little realism.

A mobile phone is a necessity for some - I am one - and the best deal is important. I have a blackberry for maintaining contact with clients which I negotiated with Vodafone hard for and got it free alongside my business phone. Two handsets is a pain in the neck if you have to carry them around but if you can leave the b'berry in a briefcase it is no hassle at all. I pay a monthly fee of about £45 and a further £100+ on calls - many are overseas calls because I live and have an office in Switzerland but work in UK and throughout Europe.

However with the advent of VOIP (Voice over Internet) you can now download Skype/Vonage/Peoplephone/Googletalk onto your handset and talk using the integral HSDPA, EDGE, WLAN or 3G connectivity for free to others on the same system and for very little to fixed line users in any country.

I have friends that do not have landlines any more because they do not maker sense. Skype and a mobile are far cheaper.

If you do PAYG then you are going to get fleeced on those occasions (holidays or weekends away) when you do want to use it. Also if you have a family member who gets sick long term (my mother-in-law is extremely unwell) it becomes a good way of staying in touch whenever you and they want and a contract is likely to work out better over time.

It's the 21st century and most of you sound like you wish it was the Dark Ages. Old dogs and new tricks springs to mind... Except they are not so new any more.

stu531 17 Oct 2008, 7:57am

It's great to say 'you don't need a phone', but many of us really couldn't manage now - me being one of them. I have my own business and it's crucial - it allows me to work in different locations, for instance.

My biggest tip would be to ensure that, whenever you call, make sure you call within your free minutes. For instance, don't ever call 0870, 0845 or even 0800 numbers.... use the excellent 'saynoto0870.com' website. Don't text any 5-digit numbers. Keep calling the phone company (150/202 whatever) to check you've not gone over your alloted minutes.

Stick to these and the bill you pay will be the amount you subscribe to.

madcon69 17 Oct 2008, 8:01am

No way is 3 cheap other than if you are on the 3 from home deal, i work in Tunisia and it costs me 1.80 min to phone the UK, and 25p to text, so i brought a local mobile on the tunisaia network and it costs me 20-30p min to call the UK and 7p to text. All these company's are a complete rip off to the UK customers!!!

yerims 17 Oct 2008, 8:05am

Hi All,

Well I have found my mobile phone to be a necessity in this day and age. I use pay as you go which is more cheaper for me as I am in control of the length of time I call and when. If I need to call abroad then I use a calling card which through my land laine which is way cheaper than if I called using my landline itself.

Kind Regards

Dhahran2001 17 Oct 2008, 8:09am

It beggars belief that anyone could buy a new contract without contrasting its terms against their usage. Download your monthly statement, paste it into a spreadsheet and analyse it to determine: minutes to other mobiles, minutes to landlines, texts, etc - it's not that difficult!

tangoinmymind 17 Oct 2008, 8:14am

I am just coming to the end of my 18mnth contract with vodaphone, and then moving onto pay as you go with the same sim. I had to give them 30days notice in writing, and after that they keep ringing up asking why I want to leave. It is as if they don't like the idea of someone being on their network not giving them a monthly amount. They tried to haggle me down to £8 a month but even that is too much nowadays. I like the idea of knowing what my phone usage is and not overpaying. Looking forward to December when I don't have a phone bill anymore.

PrinceoftheHi11s 17 Oct 2008, 8:21am

Bring back the Tom Toms I say!!!

roderickhood 17 Oct 2008, 8:23am

Its intresting to read what people pay for
My Blackberry is on Asda pay as you go if I use it I pay if I don't I don't pay.
Its there if I need it 8p for calls and 4p for text I have moved this number 4 times already

monty67 17 Oct 2008, 8:24am

As i work for one of the above companies and speak to customers every day, the one question i ask is "Do you check your bills?"and 99.9% of the time the answer is a resounding NO. Look at your bill check that you havent got any subscriptons ie. mobile tv or the dreaded text info service texts, these are texts offering services/ringtones etc most customers just delete them but they can cost anything from £1 to £5 each and you still get charged wether you read them or not,your phone company may offer a premium bar call and ask it only takes a couple of minutes and cansave you loads.

51mac 17 Oct 2008, 8:30am

Hi All!

The point is - everyone who has posted is right!

Mobile phones, like everything else, are very individual. If you need one, you'll have one; if you want one, you'll get one. And like everything else, we all try (I'm sure most of us really do try!) to get what appears to be the best deal at the time. But, there are the old addages, don't forget, that the lowest buying price isn't always the best (lowest/cheapest/most cost-effective) price, and you get what you pay for.

I've been with Vodafone for 14 years, started with a single handset and now my wife and I run our own show with 6 business mobiles, 2 laptop cards, and 2 personal mobiles. All well used, effectively, cost-effectively, all calls managed, no wasted usage (no 08xx/09xx calls) and we're very happy with our provider, great tariff, great service. But just because we are happy and getting good value for money doesn't mean everyone else is!

So if someone doesn't need a mobile, doesn't want a mobile, or if a mobile isn't right for them - who can say they're wrong? Their choice, they're right!

JohnnyRhodes 17 Oct 2008, 8:35am

Unfortuanely, a mobile phone has almost become a necessity as it is almost universally expected that people will have one. Its essential if you're trying to get a new job through a recruitment agency, and its also useful in a number of other situations i.e. if on a journey somewhere and unexpectedly delayed; if you suddenly find yourself in an emergency. I think its therefore useful to have one.
The obvious thing to do if you're not utilising you're monthly minutes is pay as you go.

FoolSte 17 Oct 2008, 8:46am

I have two mobile phones.

One is a company phone, as I do a fair amount of travelling. This is my main phone and I don't really pay any attention to who / when / where / for how long I call. If I need to call someone, I will - end of story.

The other phone is my personal phone (as I didn't want to port in my personal number to my company phone) and as I rarely use it, I have switched over to PAYG - it's the only way for small users to go. I used to pay £10 a month for 300 minutes and 300 texts anytime, any network - which was a bundled deal from Virgin as we had the home TV, phone and broadband package with them.

It was very easy to change from the 'contract' to PAYG and only had 1 months notice period. It all went smoothly, even though I didn't use that months allowance by a long chalk.

As said before, mobiles can be a god send or they can be a PITA - I have no problem leaving the house without mine.

spexii 17 Oct 2008, 8:54am

Those of you who don't have a mobile - what do you pay for your home phone (landline) usage per month? In my experience, if you are someone who lives on your own, makes a lot of calls (spending hours on the phone to your mum, say!) and is happy to live without the internet at home, the price of a mobile contract can be similar to that of a landline line rental + calls, £15 per month if you find the right deal.

Plus there's the additional flexibility of not having to cancel the contract when you move house (which I do relatively often at the moment, say every 18 months), plus being able to keep in contact with people when you're out (say for meeting up with friends) or staying over at someone's house.

For my lifestyle I find it much more suitable than a landline phone, the only pain is the price of 0800/0845/0870 numbers which I try to avoid using the say no to 0870 website.

MrPound 17 Oct 2008, 9:21am

Don't need a mobile phone??? Times move on people. Technology enhances our lives. It's obviously a lifestyle decision but there are certain inventions that change society forever. Fire, the wheel, electricity, the internet and mobile phones I consider to all be in the same category when it comes to this. O.k. you need to make sure you're getting the best deal for your usage, so PAYG may be a better option for some, and an all singing all dancing contract may be better for others. But not to have a mobile phone at all I believe is not only being a luddite but also more than a nuisance, it could be unsafe!
I have a 3 year old phone on PAYG. I refuse to limit my usage because of cost but still end up topping up £10-£15 /month only. I think that's fine. I pay my wife's contract for her which is £30/month. Yes she doesn't use the 500 mins / texts every month but the tariff below was 200 mins and she constanly went over this, causing me to have a larger than expected bill each month.
I find this article useful and some of the comments well informed and with good opinions. But I really cannot abide the comments saying that you don't need a mobile phone. It's 2008 for God's sake!
BTW - I'm not really as angry as this sounds. A lot of my language is tongue in cheek so please don't take offence.

afisk 17 Oct 2008, 9:22am

"Those of you who don't have a mobile - what do you pay for your home phone (landline) usage per month?"

About £29, including my broadband and my domestic telephone calls.

brodie103 17 Oct 2008, 9:34am

Interesting discussion and it is horses for courses. However, people should consider the whole package.

I pay £25 which covers all my calls and texts (a lot of use). I also get free broadband and buy one get one free at the cinema on a Wednesday.

I now don’t use my land line for phone calls so save on that.

On balance I think this is good value for money.

Bogphone 17 Oct 2008, 9:43am

Like some others I run my own business and have little option but to have a mobile phone.

I just make sure I dont pay for anything I don't need - so voice and text yes, anything else at no cost only. I have a SIM only contract with Virgin, which gives me more than I need (300 minutes) for £15 a month. This pays for itself by giving included calls to other mobiles.

I check how many calls and texts are left each week and use up the excess on fixed line daytime calls which would be chargeable if made on the home or business landlines.

I don't care if the handset is a few years old (I'm over 15 so don't need it as a fashion statement), and if I drop it in seawater (again) I'll do the same as I did before - ask for a new SIM card and buy a new handset - one of last years models for £5 at Argos!

Keeping mobile phone costs under control needn't be a problem, it just needs sense applied and a bit of self control. If I could I'd follow LastChip's lead and have a PAYG one and not make any calls on it.

mikej2504 17 Oct 2008, 9:56am

I read recently that 02 are the only service provider that have free unlimited data download on their tarriffs. Is this right?

Hywel777 17 Oct 2008, 10:02am

afisk and jeffrubenstein etc blatantly don't have enough friends... I rely on the mobile to find out what's going on of a night out or just in general. It's gone beyond a luxury for kids, it's unfortunatley a neccessity. I would love to live mobile free (I hate being disturbed at the best of times) but blatantly, we are from different generations. I would rather have one and not miss out than stand true to my luddite-esque principals. I hate computers, weirdly, as I feel that you should pay a higher price and have something that works and doesn't freeze constantly. But as they say at the end of Conan the Barbarian, 'That is a different story'....

AnarchyUK 17 Oct 2008, 10:11am

Brodie103, cinema? That's an expensive luxury even on a buy one get one free. ;0)

Seriously, it takes a particular lifestyle to operate without a mobile these days in my opinion. I could do without one, but I'm used to the flexibilty it gives me. I can make arrangements on the hoof, if I'm going to be late or need to change a venue I can do it on the hoof.

I can call someone if I'm out shopping and get a check on prices and reviews if my son is on a PC; he always is. Or I can use my phone to do it myself. I can send myself reminders and get email, and I can listen to music on the train to work and take the odd photo or even video.

I do all of the above to a greater or lesser extent and although I know it's a fairly expensive monthly outgoing I really don't consider it a luxury. It's an integral part of my life.

milly2101 17 Oct 2008, 10:13am

I have a landline but my company pay for my line rental so I do not use this for calls except business calls as I work from home. I have a mobile which costs me £28 per month and I get all the mins and texts I need for free.
So for me the mobile is the sensible idea as I don't have any other costs, so in comparison with afisk I'd say we are on par.

Everyone has different needs so you should not look at someone with a mobile and think they are being foolish. (In the original sense of the word!)

pab49 17 Oct 2008, 10:30am

try finding a phone box that works when you need one - and at 40p minimum per call a mobile is starting to look like an attractive option!

wally144 17 Oct 2008, 10:36am

After comparing the tariffs available when I took out my mobile phone contract a year ago, I went with 3 and their 500 minutes/month (any land or mobile number - except 900/84x/87x) for £15/month, with a free handset thrown in.
My landline is a bundle broadband/telephone service from Tiscali which offers free calls to the UK and a number of international destinations on the weekend; this costs £14.99/month.
The total cost to me is less than the old BT landline and calls plus the broadband.
Needless to say, I use my mobile during the week, and my landline on the weekend, and enjoy free calls to my family who reside in the US and Canada.
At the end of my contract with 3, I will be analyzing my calls and negotiating hard for a better deal/new handset etc.
By the way, the 'say no to 0870' website is a godsend. The proliferation of 0845 and 0870 numbers, even for government departments and companies will backfire on them as I won't call a company if I can't find a normal landline number for them. Perhaps they will get the message if enough people take this approach.
Good article - keep up the good work!

nyexin 17 Oct 2008, 11:18am

Interesting article as always. To all the "you dont need a mobile" people out there, you must be of retirement age and thus dont have the need for them like others do. On that basis your thoughts need to stay with you as they have no reflection on the rest of us. I am at the stage now in business where if a client or anyone else I need to work with does not have an email (let alone mobile number) I will do my best to avoid them unless there are very cheap!. Royail Mail is uselss so the post is out leaving emails only.

As for keeping an eye on costs, i get a free text from vodafone when ever I ask to keep me abreast of my spending. I pay £12 a month for 200 minutes and 100 texts which to me is very cheap for the use I get from it.

Incidently, mobiles are all well and good when they work. IMHO it seems where ever I go, vodafone consitantly works unlike many of the other providers. You get what you pay for. ALways have alwasy will!

monty67 17 Oct 2008, 12:04pm

mikej2504 when looking at unlimited down load look or ask about fair use policy's, as the provider will have this, cos unfortunately there are always people out there that take the mick.

afisk 17 Oct 2008, 12:06pm

I'm not of retirement age, and not only do I work full time, but I own two businesses, and I've still never needed a mobile phone.

I'm also suspicious that they're a health risk, although I admit that's not proven.

It's just the same as when I say that people should think about whether they need to take on a mortgage and buy a property, instead of renting. If you want to buy a house or flat, that's entirely your decision and none of my business; but don't think that you must do it, and that there's no question to discuss. Likewise, if you want a mobile phone, then get one at the best rate you can find; but do ask yourself whether you need one.

djabbott 17 Oct 2008, 12:32pm

So muzza668 also is brainwashed into believing the absolute need to display a needlessly expensive status symbol in public; probably drives a BMW as well. Is he/she absolutely sure the "clients" are happy & delighted to be contacted through the blackberry? I know I hate receiving what they describe as "just a courtesy call" simply because they can't switch off their infernal devices & like pestering people. And if they're calling from a train, they're also selfishly annoying another 6 innocent bystanders. Yes I have a very cheap contract for a mobile which I use very sparingly, & typically costing me under a tenner a month all in. I can remember back to the times when I quite happily & successfully lived my life without one, & without all their hassles. Long ago I concluded that mobiles are perfect for people who are thoroughly disorganised & can't plan ahead.

behappie 17 Oct 2008, 1:34pm

i bet those of you who are saying a mobile is not a necessity wouldn't feel the same if you were stranded in the middle of nowhere on your own and needed to call someone to come help you!

petervt 17 Oct 2008, 1:39pm

I have a pay as you go phone which suits my needs as I rarely use a mobile .My wife is employed by a charity to make home visits so she has a work mobile phone supplied by her employer However they insist on pay as you go (she claims the top ups on her expense account) as they feel its better value than contracts .
There is a need for some people to have mobiles but they should consider very carefully which is the best financial deal for them .

Messyplay 17 Oct 2008, 1:44pm

Numbers beginning with 08 (even freephone numbers) are not covered in your minutes / texts so cost a lot to call - find the 01 / 02 alternative by going to www.saynoto0870.com it saves me a bomb!

colinph 17 Oct 2008, 2:24pm

Can't believe some of the posts on this thread!!
Mobiles are a part of life now, just like the internet. What we're finding is that we could actually get rid of our landline, as it costs about £10 per month.

If you have to make calls to mobiles for work, they are a lot cheaper from mobiles than landlines, I happily pay £35 for the iPhone and all my minutes and texts and data is included in that. My wife's mobile is £10 a month with virgin, and its great to be able to get in touch with her at any time.

Its great being able to work from a cafe or another city and know that you can make and recieve calls from friends and business colleagues.

Different people can sacrifice different things, cars, tv's, landlines, mobiles, but there isnt a right or a wrong answer here...

Also really recommend truphone for any iPhone users whilst overseas its so cheap to make calls when you have a wifi connection

xh558 17 Oct 2008, 2:30pm

I have a contract with Orange I also have a (LINE 2) at the cost of £5.00 pcm which allows me to have a second number that I use for personal calls with a different number and 60 off peak mins orange to orange or to a landline.
I complained to orange that my line 1 was to costly and opted to change to the Virgin tariff still with orange.
I now pay no monthly rental payment and still receive a monthly bill for just the calls and still pay by direct debit with no need to top-up.
Saves me a fortune!

ufg765 17 Oct 2008, 6:10pm

I can't believe anyone pays for broadband - don't you know you can get it free from the library. You can also save money on clothes by growing your own woad, and on food bills by rifling through other peoples rubbish. I expect there are many other ways to save money based on these principles.

pingap 17 Oct 2008, 7:14pm

Whilst 3 mobile may not allow an upgrade "officially" until end of contract, actually you can do this as I've done so today! They allow you to upgrade 110 days prior to the end of contract, and that in my case meant a new mobile, a much cheaper and more suitable tariff, and will take effect at the next billing (whereby the existing contract will end). I do this every 18 months, 3 even phone me up to do this!

pjpunter7 17 Oct 2008, 7:17pm

Personally, I am old enough to be able to manage without a cellphone, but I quite understand how such a tool can be useful for emergencies.

What I really dislike is the growing tendency for essential services, utilities, and local authorities to expect ordinary folk like me to pay through the nose when trying to contact them.

Even with a device that gives me "zero p per minute" calls, I find I have to pay from 12p upwards just to get some dude's "voicemail" or somesuch!
Imo, all councils and major public companies should be free to contact by the public, BUT should make their inefficient and wasteful staff PAY 50p per minute out of their wages for making gibberish nuiscance calls.
That would larn 'em, imo.
Btw, most of the overheard calls I've endured, whilst on the train or elsewhere, seem to be totally pointless bullshit from where I am, so it's quite easy to see why the world is in such a debt-ridden mess!
Get a grip, you trendy bankers! I don't want to subsidise your silly nonsense. Just leave me out of your whispered sweet nothings, please.

bs911 18 Oct 2008, 2:25am

Contract mobiles are better for those with fast lives. That said, mobiles are a potential health risk, they emit microwaves - they should be used for minimum talk, not costly & lengthy chit chat

Landlines on fixed wires are safer. Too much mobile chit chat generally indicates either disorganisation, lack of discipline, or that the talker is a wide boy or proverbial dumb blonde

budgetguy 18 Oct 2008, 4:56pm

The trick to cutting your mobile bill is to play the long game. First get a good contract with lots of talktime allowance included. Then each year as the contract is renewed ask to have a discount on your rental charge, rather than a free upgrade, etc. The mistake is to go for a flashy new phone wheras if you keep discounting your rental charge you can really push the cost of your monthly rental charge. I've managed to reduce my rental charge to well under £10, saving me a packet. If inclined you can allways pick up a newer model separately for a one off purchase, but still getting the discount.

Glynderi 18 Oct 2008, 7:16pm

Retirement age! What a cheek. :-)

I'm over retirement age, still working and have a company phone (Vodafone) and my own, private PAYG phone with Tesco (who use O2). Barely spend £5 month. Thinking of switching that to Asda as they are apparently cheaper (and use Vodafone).

As others say, it's what suits you.

rufus141 19 Oct 2008, 5:54pm

I don't see the argument. I like having a phone, so I will have one. It's a choice surely?
I like knowing I can contact someone if I am in trouble, or my kids being able to contact me in an emergency.
I am with Orange, and instead of upgrading my phone, they have offered me a £200 cash payment and also a further discount on my line rental. This means I pay under £3.00 a month, and for that I get unlimited landline minutes, 700 cross network minutes and 100 texts.
I reckon that's pretty good!

Smiffykim 20 Oct 2008, 6:15pm

Although I hear a lot of complaints about Orange I have found they have really interesting deals. At times they have 10% off contracts and my £30 a month contract then worked out with the £100 phone trade in at £23 a month. On the subject of Magic Numbers - free with Orange contract fones - you can also get Magic numbers with PAYG orange fones. On PAYG you are entitled to 3 numbers maximum (contract fones can add a new number every six months) and although not free, you can speak to your Magic Numbers for 20p an hour. The magic numbers in both cases can only be other Orange numbers.

FoolSte 21 Oct 2008, 11:01am

Having read every post on this subject.

Why are people slating others for 'not getting with the times', or 'wasteful air talk'.

If you don't want / need a mobile - then don't get one. End of story.
If you want / need one and can afford it, then get one. End of story.

What is the point arguing that you don't need one / do need one - it's down to personal choice and how people want to live.

There are much bigger things to worry about than this.

What suits one person, may not suit another.

tedphill 22 Oct 2008, 12:28pm

All the above comments are what suits that person, I wonder if they are all so involved with their finances that they search round as often to look for the best interest/loan deals. As FoolSte says, end of story.

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